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Fry stealing was: live food.
You are correct, the females will raise the stolen fry as their own. If a
male decides to take the fry, however, they often get bored after a few days
and then the fry are eaten - either by the male or other tank mates.
On a side note, I have photos of 2 Rotpunkts in female brood dress jointly
guarding a batch of fry. The strange thing was that although there were 2
guards the fry would slowly disappear. The smaller "female" is now breeding
with my females. It was a "sneaker male". Was he doing this to remove the
dominant male's offspring or merely hiding from the dominant male as a female
& taking advantage of a close meal. I don't know. I'm surprised that the real
female didn't do something about this since she was larger the the sneaker
male, but she allowed him within a couple of inches or the fry and herself.
This happened with several broods before I started getting suspicious.
Mike Wise
Mike Wise
"M.LIEBANES" wrote:
> I take it that when you talk about stealing the other's babies, they're
> not eating them, just guarding them. i.e. it's the mothering instinct,
> not the eating instinct. If this is the case, so long as the parents
> don't damage each other, does it matter who looks after the babies?
> I hope this isn't a stupid question, I'd just like to get this straight
> in my head
> C:-)lin
> ----- Mensaje Original -----
> De: "Yvan Alleau" <yalleau@OCE.ORST.EDU>
> Fecha: Lunes, Mayo 7, 2001 9:15 pm
> Asunto: Re: live food.
>
> > thanks mike.
> > FLI USA
> >
> > Yvan Alleau
> > 712 Kings boulevard
> > 97330 Corvallis, Oregon
> > home # 738-0606
> > College of Oceanic and Atmospheric Sciences
> > Oregon State University
> > office (Burt 222) # 737-3649, to be used wisely !
> > yalleau@oce.orst.edu
> >
> > "When you're far from everything, you're getting closer to the
> > essential"
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Mike & Diane Wise" <apistowise@bewellnet.com>
> > To: <apisto@listbox.com>
> > Sent: Monday, May 07, 2001 12:11 PM
> > Subject: Re: live food.
> >
> >
> > > Yvan,
> > >
> > > This depends on many things. If the brooding dominant female is very
> > dominant,
> > > and the tank is relatively small (under 3 feet long), there is a
> > goodchance
> > > that the dominant female will drive off (or even kill) the other
> > femalesand
> > > take their fry. This is the worst case scenario. Usually the
> > females will
> > > display to each other and try to steal fry. It is best if you
> > watch them
> > for a
> > > few days, just to be safe.
> > >
> > > Mike Wise
> > >
> > > Yvan Alleau wrote:
> > >
> > > > the virus issue is easy to avoid:
> > > > each time i received it , it was under the same form:
> > > > - a "responce" to one of my e-mails but with some
> > characteristics. There
> > is
> > > > no real responce, just a copy of my own e-mail! Nobody wrote
> > any answer:
> > it
> > > > is just an automatic reply, with a virus as an attachement.
> > > > This attachement was always a ".scr" file. If you recieve an e-
> > mail with
> > > > such an attachement, just delete it.
> > > >
> > > > Back to fish!!!
> > > > I've describe a few days ago a "polygamous" behavior (thanks
> > mike) of my
> > A.
> > > > red punkt. The eggs hached and i am now waiting impatiently to
> > see how
> > the
> > > > mamas are going to deal with each other fry! Will one dominate
> > the 2
> > other
> > > > and stil their fry? Are they going to join their force (i
> > doubt it!) ?
> > > > Do you guys have any clue?
> > > > take care
> > > > FLI USA
> > > >
> > > > Yvan Alleau
> > > > 712 Kings boulevard
> > > > 97330 Corvallis, Oregon
> > > > home # 738-0606
> > > > College of Oceanic and Atmospheric Sciences
> > > > Oregon State University
> > > > office (Burt 222) # 737-3649, to be used wisely !
> > > > yalleau@oce.orst.edu
> > > >
> > > > "When you're far from everything, you're getting closer to the
> > essential"
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Frauley Elson" <fraulels@videotron.ca>
> > > > To: <apisto@listbox.com>
> > > > Sent: Monday, May 07, 2001 8:37 AM
> > > > Subject: Re: live food.
> > > >
> > > > > I don't want to start a thread on a virus here, but if you
> > go to a
> > virus
> > > > > site, you'll find this one. Anyone who opens the attachment will
> > "send"
> > > > > replies to mail received without knowing it (so it's unfair
> > to suggest
> > > > > it's someone's joke). It's been a pain on a few lists
> > (killies got hit
> > > > > hard) as it appears to be a private e-mail with an
> > attachment in
> > > > > response to what you sent. It's a virus that thrives on e-
> > mail lists.
> > > > > -Gary
> > > > >
> > > > > Max Gallade wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Sal,
> > > > > > Thanks for the warning.I almost opened it.Is this a joke
> > of our
> > friend
> > > > David
> > > > > > Sanchez of Apistogrammas etc.?
> > > > > > Max
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
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