Well mike you mighta been wrong about those tiger thingys but you were right about these guys! I had a spawn that disappeared a week or so ago. I figured that would happen so it was no big heartbreak. Well last night I noticed another...and I wasn't gonna let em eat this one! So that spawn is in a filterbox with aeration, and methylene blue. Everything is fine. Tonight I go in to the fishroom to check on things....(a continuous activity of mine throughout the day). I take a look at the eggs and they look good, i can see the eyes, so it souldn't be long. Now there were some fish that have been hanging in a dark corner, and I figured it was because of the new parents....well, I shine my trusty flashlight in there....and a nice little cloud of about 40 fry were swarming around these guys! Now there are 12 fish in a 20 long, so before things happen I decided I would siphon them out and give em' their own tank. I just looked in again, and the pair that I stole the eggs from are cleaning another site! Looks like i'm gonna have lotsa these guys!! Anamalochromis anyone??!! LOL! Be well, Rich P.S. I also had recent spawns of A. Hongsloi II (about 50 fry) and A. agasizzi (alenquer) no fry yet. I caught a Nanacara anomala eating the eggs, so the aggies will be going into a 20 long of their own later tonight. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://www.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!