Ok this virus i can deal with, lol. I got nailed with it 6 years ago, while reading too many books and found out a club member was breeding cacatuoides and aggies. Now some 18 species later, plus all the ones i've spawned and no longer keep, I am hooked!! Only cure i've found for getting new species, is Julio leaving the country lol. Without him, dont know where i'll get my new stock!! John ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://www.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!