i agree with mike, mine spawn on a leaf and other fishes were all around. the male was doing nothing different the before the spawn and the female wasn't really aggressive! not surprisingly i had no fry! FLI USA Yvan Alleau 712 Kings boulevard 97330 Corvallis, Oregon home # 738-0606 College of Oceanic and Atmospheric Sciences Oregon State University office (Burt 222) # 737-3649, to be used wisely ! yalleau@oce.orst.edu ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike & Diane Wise" <apistowise@bewellnet.com> Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2001 12:32 PM Subject: Re: crenacara filamentosa > Steve, > > I've found Dicrossus filamentosus (a.k.a. Crenicara filamentosa) to be > less than good parents. The males are very casual about protecting a territory and > the females aren't the best at protecting eggs or fry. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com.