ok what I really need to know now is how to tell the females apart ( photo's ?) Mike & Diane Wise wrote: > Rik, > > It appears that you probably do have A. sp. Papagei/Parrot (=Algodon I). It's easy > to separate Papagei (Algodon I) from Putumayo (Algodon II) by looking at the > caudal spot. Putumayo has a single slightly oval caudal spot. Papagei has 2 caudal > spots joined to make a caudal patch similar to that of A. commbrae. I agree, the > Putumayo in L&S is very pale. Males in the proper lighting usually show some deep > burgundy color on the lateral band and abdominal stripes. They have very little > color on the face, however. BTW I hate the names "Algodon I & II". As you can see, > there's too much confusion about these names. I'd prefer we use Papagei/Parrot > instead of Algodon. Since I'm not sure if Algodon II is the same as Putumayo, I'm > stuck with the name even though Algodon II is supposed to come from the Ampiyacu, > not the Algodon. > > Mike Wise > > Rik Vandiver wrote: > > > the one in the L&S book looks nothing like the fish that I'm looking for . it > > looks like an algodon I with LOT'S more red in the body. I missed getting one > > from apisto.com by the hair on my chin :-( > > > > Mike & Diane Wise wrote: > > > > > I haven't seen Algodon II listed for sale for over a year. The list on > > > apistogramma.com that I found was just that, a list. It wasn't being offered > > > for sale. Algodon II is similar, if not the same, to one of the commercial > > > forms of called "A. cruzi" (=A. sp. Putumayo) (see Linke & Staeck p. 127; > > > Mayland & Bork p. 56 & 57 top; and Aqualog SAC II p. 29 & 30 SO3457-3). You > > > might want to look for these. I am assuming that you aren't talking about > > > Algodon I which is the same as Papagei/Parrot. > > > > > > Mike Wise > > > > > > John Wubbolt wrote: > > > > > > > I dont like to plug businesses here but i do know that > > > > www.apistogramma.com has them listed > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. > > > > For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, > > > > email apisto-request@listbox.com. > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. > > > For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, > > > email apisto-request@listbox.com. > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. > > For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, > > email apisto-request@listbox.com. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. > For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, > email apisto-request@listbox.com. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com.