Rich, It was at animal city in Vernon, I bought all the "ortmanni" but they should have about six of the assorted left. I bought them last saturday. They also have another store in Enfield which you could call and ask if they have any. But beware you might want a seperate tank to keep them in for a while. You might also try emmons tropical fish in simsbury I have never seen any there but the owner says that he does get some. What variety does the greenwich store have? Also have you had any luck with the belems? Mine are hopefully spawning both the male and female are really colored up and acting funky so I have been keeping my fingers crossed. The male has been in full dress since about 2 days after i got him and the female just colored up, and i though they might have spawned on sunday but they did not. I had a 3, two males, but the more dominant male killed the other before I could remove him. Greg ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com.