Oops... N. anomala must be a serial killer :) Your descriptions really made me think twice. In the photos, it seems a shy fish :) Ok. I'm only going to buy a pair a A. cacatuoides to my 80L tank. The rest of the population will be a couple of killies, a female betta and 6-8 tetra cardinal. I would like to see photos of your A. cacatuoides, if you don't mind. I'm afraid it is different, when in my tank, from the photos I see on the web. By the way, my water: pH: 6.0-6.5, gH: 3º, temp: 27ºC. Fine? Alfredo Oliveira de Azeméis - Portugal negas@netc.pt ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com.