[Max Gallade] BTW,I followed your advise from yesterday and raised the temp in my Ram tank to 85F.The female moved her eggs into a hollow that she and the male dug in the sand. [John McCrone] Excuse my ignorance but is this the normal thing - for blue rams to lay eggs on a surface and then move the eggs (rather than waiting for hatching wrigglers) to a pit? Cheers ------------------------------------------------------------ from John McCrone ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com.