Mike......and everyone else.......please......I am not the sky-marshal or the e-mail police here: but there have been several times in the past where people used this list to further their "profit making adventures"..................the list got ugly because so-and-so says this and didn't do this and owes me money and his place isn't worth doodle and his fish die and I never got my money back from so-and-so and........it gets REAL UGLY.........do you see the point?.............let me make the point that maybe I sell "small-celled" sponges........you just stepped on my foot because of a "profit" motive not a belief motive.........there is a huge difference! We seem to have been doing super by indirectly saying things like....."hey the BBshrimp hatch from ABC Supplies is super, you ought to get some"........but we are sticking our necks out big time when we say ...."I sell this and that" ........or put advertising in our sig. lines. I know that free advertising is the "American way" and all of that......we have the right to advertise where we can and all of those arguments......but there are rules of this list that need to be followed or we all loose. It's a tough call Mike......and here your need to want to help people.....but we have to be careful.........example......I too sell things........do you know what it is?????? There are only 2-3 people on this list that know what I sell, it's aquarium related...........I'm trying very hard to follow the rules without stepping on any toes. I won't mention it because that's the rules..........my advertising is done elsewhere.....no anger here Mike, you were just trying to help the fellow.....I heard that in your tone....but let people find out about what and where you sell thing in places other than here........thanks. Folks.......some help here! Have a great day! Mike Mike Jacobs Center for Advanced Technologies High School Math Instructor St. Pete, Fl. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Chappell" <chippell@sgi.net> To: <apisto@listbox.com> Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2001 4:34 PM Subject: RE: advertising > Mike - > > I am not out to advertise, if someone woudl want advise I would like to > steer them in he right direction, how about this -for messages asking for > help, why don't we include an email address where we can help off list. > Because apparently we are ubale to tell someone where to go for help > publically. SO let's include email address's if things need to be discussed > abotu where products are etc. In all respect, a list is supposed to be > helpful to the hobby, and knowing where products are, who has them, which is > cheaper, is all helping the hobby in my book. So we can say a DIY sponge > filter..then the next question that arrises is "where do i get those at?" > Well that would be the end of the thread because we can't discuss a stores > name. So my suggestion if we can't do that include your email that was we > can talk off list. Is an email ok? > > Mike Chappell > info@threeguysaquatics.com > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-apisto@admin.listbox.com > [mailto:owner-apisto@admin.listbox.com]On Behalf Of Mike Jacobs > Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2001 4:18 PM > To: apisto@listbox.com > Subject: advertising > > > Folks.......advertising is kinda verboten on the apisto list........we have > had many a "war" here because of it. Of course there is 1) advertising, and > 2) the telling of the pluses and minuses of products.......there is a > difference............we have been super about that for quite some time > folks.........let's continue............advertisements in sig. lines are at > best questionable in my opinion...........please, rather than making this a > "war" again could the list monitor step in right now and reiterate the > rules..........Frank......are you there??????? > > Thanks................ > > Mike Jacobs > Center for Advanced Technologies > High School Math Instructor > St. Pete, Fl. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mike Chappell" <chippell@sgi.net> > To: <apisto@listbox.com> > Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2001 3:17 PM > Subject: RE: sponge filters > > > > Cameron, > > > > With a sponge filter you will need a few little things - air supply via > air > > pump(for one sponge filter it does not have to be of any size) You may > need > > a air line valve to adjust air flow into your sponge filter. And some air > > tubing to get from your air supply to your filter. A suggestion may just > to > > use a simply sponge filter, as I do carry them I'll sell large pore sponge > > filter with lift tubes for abtou 3.25 or so each. A "hydro" sponge will be > > less ecoonmical doing basically the same filtration. And the place whom > > carry's the sponge filters and air tubing is listed below my name:) Just > my > > 2 cents. > > > > Mike Chappell > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-apisto@admin.listbox.com > > [mailto:owner-apisto@admin.listbox.com]On Behalf Of Cameron Case > > Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2001 2:58 PM > > To: apisto@listbox.com > > Subject: sponge filters > > > > > > I have two things. First, from anyone who knows, what size "Hydro" sponge > > filter would be good on a 20L w/ plants and (eventually) apistos > > (additionally, what else do I need other than a pump and some tubing)? > > Second, from the killi list, here is a place they claim has really good > > prices on sponge filters www.4fishstuff.com > > > > Thanks, > > Cameron > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. > > For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, > > email apisto-request@listbox.com. > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. > > For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, > > email apisto-request@listbox.com. > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. > For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, > email apisto-request@listbox.com. > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. > For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, > email apisto-request@listbox.com. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. 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