Re: advertising

[Scott <zerelli@yahoo.com>]

I don't agree at all. I depend on the lists I read for
locating products and support. I for one would hate to
see the email police (that is what this is, no offense
to you but this is not your list) discourage someone
from posting because they own the business in
question. Nine times out of ten the posting will
expose the business as bad or good. My vote is no for
stopping people like ThreeGuysAquatics from mentioning
what they carry. Of course, its not MY list either so
Frank will get the final say. Mike (J.) you are doing
this out of good intentions so don't think I am upset
by your post I just wanted to speak up on the issue.



--- Mike Jacobs <mjacobs2@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
> Mike......and everyone else.......please......I am
> not the sky-marshal or
> the e-mail police here:  but there have been several
> times in the past where
> people used this list to further their "profit
> making
> adventures"..................the list got ugly
> because so-and-so says this
> and didn't do this and owes me money and his place
> isn't worth doodle and
> his fish die and I never got my money back from
> so-and-so and........it gets
> REAL UGLY.........do you see the
> point?.............let me make the point
> that maybe I sell "small-celled" sponges........you
> just stepped on my foot
> because of a "profit" motive not a belief
> motive.........there is a huge
> difference!  We seem to have been doing super by
> indirectly saying things
> like....."hey the BBshrimp hatch from ABC Supplies
> is super, you ought to
> get some"........but we are sticking our necks out
> big time when we say
> ...."I sell this and that"  ........or put
> advertising in our sig. lines.  I
> know that free advertising is the "American way" and
> all of that......we
> have the right to advertise where we can and all of
> those arguments......but
> there are rules of this list that need to be
> followed or we all loose.
> 
> It's a tough call Mike......and  here your need to
> want to help
> people.....but we have to be
> careful.........example......I too sell
> things........do you know what it is??????  There
> are only 2-3 people on
> this list that know what I sell, it's aquarium
> related...........I'm trying
> very hard to follow the rules without stepping on
> any toes.  I won't mention
> it because that's the rules..........my advertising
> is done elsewhere.....no
> anger here Mike, you were just trying to help the
> fellow.....I heard that in
> your tone....but let people find out about what and
> where you sell thing in
> places other than here........thanks.
> 
> Folks.......some help here!
> 
> Have a great day!
> 
> Mike
> 
> Mike Jacobs
> Center for Advanced Technologies
> High School Math Instructor
> St. Pete, Fl.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mike Chappell" <chippell@sgi.net>
> To: <apisto@listbox.com>
> Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2001 4:34 PM
> Subject: RE: advertising
> 
> 
> > Mike -
> >
> > I am not out to advertise, if someone woudl want
> advise I would like to
> > steer them in he right direction, how about this
> -for messages asking for
> > help, why don't we include an email address where
> we can help off list.
> > Because apparently we are ubale to tell someone
> where to go for help
> > publically. SO let's include email address's if
> things need to be
> discussed
> > abotu where products are etc. In all respect, a
> list is supposed to be
> > helpful to the hobby, and knowing where products
> are, who has them, which
> is
> > cheaper, is all helping the hobby in my book. So
> we can say a DIY sponge
> > filter..then the next question that arrises is
> "where do i get those at?"
> > Well that would be the end of the thread because
> we can't discuss a stores
> > name.  So my suggestion if we can't do that
> include your email that was we
> > can talk off list. Is an email ok?
> >
> > Mike Chappell
> > info@threeguysaquatics.com
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-apisto@admin.listbox.com
> > [mailto:owner-apisto@admin.listbox.com]On Behalf
> Of Mike Jacobs
> > Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2001 4:18 PM
> > To: apisto@listbox.com
> > Subject: advertising
> >
> >
> > Folks.......advertising is kinda verboten on the
> apisto list........we
> have
> > had many a "war" here because of it.  Of course
> there is 1) advertising,
> and
> > 2) the telling of the pluses and minuses of
> products.......there is a
> > difference............we have been super about
> that for quite some time
> > folks.........let's
> continue............advertisements in sig. lines are
> at
> > best questionable in my opinion...........please,
> rather than making this
> a
> > "war" again could the list monitor step in right
> now and reiterate the
> > rules..........Frank......are you there???????
> >
> > Thanks................
> >
> > Mike Jacobs
> > Center for Advanced Technologies
> > High School Math Instructor
> > St. Pete, Fl.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Mike Chappell" <chippell@sgi.net>
> > To: <apisto@listbox.com>
> > Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2001 3:17 PM
> > Subject: RE: sponge filters
> >
> >
> > > Cameron,
> > >
> > > With a sponge filter you will need a few little
> things - air supply via
> > air
> > > pump(for one sponge filter it does not have to
> be of any size) You may
> > need
> > > a air line valve to adjust air flow into your
> sponge filter.  And some
> air
> > > tubing to get from your air supply to your
> filter.  A suggestion may
> just
> > to
> > > use a simply sponge filter, as I do carry them
> I'll sell large pore
> sponge
> > > filter with lift tubes for abtou 3.25 or so
> each. A "hydro" sponge will
> be
> > > less ecoonmical doing basically the same
> filtration.  And the place whom
> > > carry's the sponge filters and air tubing is
> listed below my name:) Just
> > my
> > > 2 cents.
> > >
> > > Mike Chappell
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: owner-apisto@admin.listbox.com
> > > [mailto:owner-apisto@admin.listbox.com]On Behalf
> Of Cameron Case
> > > Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2001 2:58 PM
> > > To: apisto@listbox.com
> > > Subject: sponge filters
> > >
> > >
> > > I have two things.  First, from anyone who
> knows, what size "Hydro"
> sponge
> > > filter would be good on a 20L w/ plants and
> (eventually) apistos
> > > (additionally, what else do I need other than a
> pump and some tubing)?
> > > Second, from the killi list, here is a place
> they claim has really good
> > > prices on sponge filters   www.4fishstuff.com
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Cameron
> > >
> > >
> > >
>
_________________________________________________________________
> 
=== message truncated ===


__________________________________________________
Do You Yahoo!?
Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com


-------------------------------------------------------------------------
This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com.
For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help,
email apisto-request@listbox.com.