Thanks for the Info Fredrik Maybe my tone was a bit smart allic but i really had never heard of the change of Taeniacara Candidi to Apistogramma..... I keep up on as much reading about dwarf cichlids as i can... and this was the first time i had heard anyone call them Apistos..... Guess its time for Candidi to go through the changes as did rams.... from papliochromis to MicroGeophagus and whether its Micro or MiKro...... I know what they look like, what you call them, i'll catch up sooner or later..... being a killie keeper makes me more tolerant of name changes then i was 10 years ago...... John ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com.