Yeah, I use to be a silent list member too but, now they can't get me to shut up..<G> I agree from my limited knowledge. The first foods are micro worms, vinegar eels. Some small fry can eat bbs(baby brine shrimp)right from the start. But, as you can see from last group of messages the power breeders are all home today so listen to them. Z-man,Mike,Dave....I'm just a beginner...I'm not really sure how long it takes to become seasoned but, it's sure good having these guys to help you out.