Re: Dwarf Problems

["Chris Jewell" <chris@jewell68.freeserve.co.uk>]

[John McCrone]
> I didn't see any responses to your post. I suspect this is because this is
a
> very puzzling picture. Bolivian rams and Kribs I would consider pretty
> bullet proof. And if you keep discus successfully, you must have a fair
idea
> of what you are doing.
>
> One thought, do the fish that die all come from the same shop? I'm in the
UK
> too and I used to buy at a particular place. Then staff changed and every
> apisto pair I bought seemed to go black and die after a few days. Not
> through any obvious disease but simply as if shocked or gill damaged by
poor
> husbandry at the shop.
>
Thanks for the reply John,

 fish came from 2 main sources, allthough I did loose every appisto I bought
from one store, many of which to intrenal worms. From reading posts on
internal worms, they would appear to be at fault here I feel, as they
physical symptoms dont entirely match, and the diesae ran its course in
hours, and not days and weaks. The problem which you encountered does sound
a little similar, most of the fish were less than a month old ( from the
store as it were)

I have managed to keep and breed a number of the more common apistos (
perhaps 4 species) without much trouble over  the last 3 or 4 years, mainly
keeping them in my amazon Discus tanks, but appear now to have hit this
brick  wall. The only remaining stock I have now is one pair of a. agazzizi
(sp, applogies!), 2 blue rams, and one bolivian ram, all of hich appear to
be thriving.

Two suggestions I have had are that it could be toxin problems ( appears
unlikely?) and "sleepining sickness", what are anyone's thoughts on this?

I would love to get a  few pairs of really special appistos to stock the
tanks back up again, but dont feel I can at the moment, as I do not what to
see good fish simply turn belly up.

Thanks again

Chris


thought os this----- Original Message -----
From: John McCrone <j.mccrone@btinternet.com>
To: <apisto@majordomo.pobox.com>
Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2001 10:10 AM
Subject: re: Dwarf Problems


> [Chris Jewell]
> I've recently had problems in the last few months that appear only to be
> effecting my dwarf cichlids, resulting in the loss of Bolivian rams, Blue
> rams, Opaline Apistos, Kribs and a few others.
> It only appears to effect the fish singularly, with one  half of a pair
> being
> struck down at once, allthough the other can sometimes follow a few  days
/
> weeks later. The sysmtoms are the fish become listless, loos colour and
> generally darken, start to shimmy and  stay on the tank bottom. Thsi is
> followed by heathy breathy, loss of appetite, and death, in about 24-48
> hours.
>
> [John McCrone]
> I didn't see any responses to your post. I suspect this is because this is
a
> very puzzling picture. Bolivian rams and Kribs I would consider pretty
> bullet proof. And if you keep discus successfully, you must have a fair
idea
> of what you are doing.
>
> One thought, do the fish that die all come from the same shop? I'm in the
UK
> too and I used to buy at a particular place. Then staff changed and every
> apisto pair I bought seemed to go black and die after a few days. Not
> through any obvious disease but simply as if shocked or gill damaged by
poor
> husbandry at the shop.
>
> Cheers
> ------------------------------------------------------------
> from John McCrone
>
>
>
>
>
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