Hey everyone, thanks for your advice about getting these guys. I did purchase a pair of A. panduro last Saturday. They are residing in a 10 gal barebottom, with a few flat stones, some pvc, fake plants, soon to be pots, and a sponge filter and a heater. I have a few questions about them. 1) What is the optimum temperature to keep these fish at? What about once eggs are laid? 2) What is breeding size for these guys? My female is about 1", male about 1.5" right now. 3) What do you do to condition them? What pH and hardness is needed? 4) Anything else I should know about keeping them? Thanks! ~Lianne ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com.