Re: Problems

[salS <chas33@optonline.net>]

I agree, thanks Dave
sal
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Sanchez" <barbax2@yahoo.com>
To: <apisto@listbox.com>
Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2001 6:06 AM
Subject: Re: Problems


> Sal I get mine from Chemaqua. I dont have the address
> on hand but I will get it for you later. Another
> source is www.ftffa.com and go to the store link. Its
> expensive but nothing works like Fluebenol.
>
> Dave
>
>
> --- salS <chas33@optonline.net> wrote:
> > Dave,
> > I'm having a difficult time finding fluebenol..who
> > makes it and where do you
> > get yours?
> > sal
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "David Sanchez" <barbax2@yahoo.com>
> > To: <apisto@listbox.com>
> > Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2001 12:46 AM
> > Subject: Re: Problems
> >
> >
> > > From what you have described I am going to go
> > ahead
> > > and guess it's a parasite. Judging from the way it
> > has
> > > spread and the fact that the fish die slowly.
> > Indeed
> > > there may be secondary bacterial infections but I
> > am
> > > convinced it's a parasite. Probably spread by
> > > splashing nets etc. The number one treatment for
> > > external parasites of this kind is Fluebenol 5%.
> > It is
> > > very mild on the fish and very effective even
> > killing
> > > the eggs of any parasites. I would quarantine all
> > the
> > > fish number one. But don't forget to treat their
> > tanks
> > > or leave them out long enough for any eggs to
> > hatch.
> > > In the absence of Fluebenol 5% my second choice
> > would
> > > be a combination of malachite green and
> > formaldehyde.
> > > This is a bit harsh but will do the trick. Use as
> > a
> > > bath or if you use the quarantine tank as a
> > prolonged
> > > exposure for 3 days. You'll have to treat for
> > about
> > > two weeks though to be sure you have broken the
> > cycle,
> > > as the eggs may not be killed by this method.
> > Because
> > > the gills are being attacked I would also make
> > sure
> > > you have lots of aeration and I might consider
> > adding
> > > some methyline blue as it facilitates O2
> > absorption by
> > > the gills. If the problem persists you just have
> > to be
> > > patient because remember you have to break the
> > cycle
> > > of the parasite so you must persevere. Good luck.
> > >
> > > Dave
> > >
> > > --- colingorton@eurosport.com wrote:
> > > > Hi folks, thanks for the suggestions. I've
> > decided
> > > > to
> > > > use my previous email address for the time being
> > as
> > > > (as Pete Liptrot said), I can't seem to find how
> > to
> > > > rejoin the list. If someone can send me
> > instructions
> > > > on how to, I'd be very grateful.
> > > >
> > > > Let me add some info. about my problem. I've had
> > a
> > > > look at the gills under a microscope and at 50x
> > > > magnification the gills were covered in little
> > black
> > > > spots which when viewed at 200x mag. showed as
> > black
> > > > spots with lots of wavy hairs coming off them.
> > No
> > > > visible nucleus or anything else for that
> > matter.
> > > > This would appear to be very similar to the
> > Cilliate
> > > > (?) described in vol I of the Baensch atlas.
> > > > Unfortunately I won't be able to give you the
> > full
> > > > info. until Tuesday.
> > > > Even though I treated with Serazin (generally
> > good
> > > > for this sort of thing) there has been no
> > > > improvement. The most effective treatment (it
> > worked
> > > > once!) was salt. Unfortunately since then my
> > > > Crenicichla Regani female keeled over and didn't
> > > > respond to this treatment.
> > > > Having spoken to Pete on the phone he suggested
> > that
> > > > the Cilliats may be a secondary symptom, not the
> > > > cause. I tend to agree.
> > > >
> > > > Water parameters:
> > > > 0 nitrates
> > > > 3º DH
> > > > 3º KH
> > > > pH between 6 and 7
> > > > No visible connection with water supply (some
> > died
> > > > after a water change, others not), municiple
> > water
> > > > supply RO'd, maximum of 50% water changed, at
> > > > approx.
> > > > once per week, some tanks haven't had many
> > changes
> > > > in
> > > > the past couple of months (1 or 2).
> > > > Heavily planted tanks, producing a lot of oxygen
> > > > (pearling all day). Filtration is by various
> > methods
> > > > on different tanks but all have plentiful O2
> > levels,
> > > > if anything, the tank with the least O2 is the
> > one
> > > > with the least problems.
> > > > In general there is no discolouration anywhere
> > until
> > > > just before death when the gills sometimes lose
> > > > colour.
> > > > Until recently I've been feeding ONLY frozen
> > food
> > > > and
> > > > the occasional lot of wild caught mosquito
> > larvae
> > > > from a planter outside my house or from my water
> > > > tank
> > > > (left open for this reason.
> > > > Stock is generally captive bred.
> > > > Since speaking to Pete I've tried a bactericide,
> > but
> > > > won't know how effective this has been until the
> > > > next
> > > > fish tips up its toes.
> > > >
> > > > C:-)lin
> > > >
> > > > They said "Smile, things could be worse." So I
> > > > smiled and sure enough...
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
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