Sal I get mine from Chemaqua. I dont have the address on hand but I will get it for you later. Another source is www.ftffa.com and go to the store link. Its expensive but nothing works like Fluebenol. Dave --- salS <chas33@optonline.net> wrote: > Dave, > I'm having a difficult time finding fluebenol..who > makes it and where do you > get yours? > sal > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "David Sanchez" <barbax2@yahoo.com> > To: <apisto@listbox.com> > Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2001 12:46 AM > Subject: Re: Problems > > > > From what you have described I am going to go > ahead > > and guess it's a parasite. Judging from the way it > has > > spread and the fact that the fish die slowly. > Indeed > > there may be secondary bacterial infections but I > am > > convinced it's a parasite. Probably spread by > > splashing nets etc. The number one treatment for > > external parasites of this kind is Fluebenol 5%. > It is > > very mild on the fish and very effective even > killing > > the eggs of any parasites. I would quarantine all > the > > fish number one. But don't forget to treat their > tanks > > or leave them out long enough for any eggs to > hatch. > > In the absence of Fluebenol 5% my second choice > would > > be a combination of malachite green and > formaldehyde. > > This is a bit harsh but will do the trick. Use as > a > > bath or if you use the quarantine tank as a > prolonged > > exposure for 3 days. You'll have to treat for > about > > two weeks though to be sure you have broken the > cycle, > > as the eggs may not be killed by this method. > Because > > the gills are being attacked I would also make > sure > > you have lots of aeration and I might consider > adding > > some methyline blue as it facilitates O2 > absorption by > > the gills. If the problem persists you just have > to be > > patient because remember you have to break the > cycle > > of the parasite so you must persevere. Good luck. > > > > Dave > > > > --- colingorton@eurosport.com wrote: > > > Hi folks, thanks for the suggestions. I've > decided > > > to > > > use my previous email address for the time being > as > > > (as Pete Liptrot said), I can't seem to find how > to > > > rejoin the list. If someone can send me > instructions > > > on how to, I'd be very grateful. > > > > > > Let me add some info. about my problem. I've had > a > > > look at the gills under a microscope and at 50x > > > magnification the gills were covered in little > black > > > spots which when viewed at 200x mag. showed as > black > > > spots with lots of wavy hairs coming off them. > No > > > visible nucleus or anything else for that > matter. > > > This would appear to be very similar to the > Cilliate > > > (?) described in vol I of the Baensch atlas. > > > Unfortunately I won't be able to give you the > full > > > info. until Tuesday. > > > Even though I treated with Serazin (generally > good > > > for this sort of thing) there has been no > > > improvement. The most effective treatment (it > worked > > > once!) was salt. Unfortunately since then my > > > Crenicichla Regani female keeled over and didn't > > > respond to this treatment. > > > Having spoken to Pete on the phone he suggested > that > > > the Cilliats may be a secondary symptom, not the > > > cause. I tend to agree. > > > > > > Water parameters: > > > 0 nitrates > > > 3º DH > > > 3º KH > > > pH between 6 and 7 > > > No visible connection with water supply (some > died > > > after a water change, others not), municiple > water > > > supply RO'd, maximum of 50% water changed, at > > > approx. > > > once per week, some tanks haven't had many > changes > > > in > > > the past couple of months (1 or 2). > > > Heavily planted tanks, producing a lot of oxygen > > > (pearling all day). Filtration is by various > methods > > > on different tanks but all have plentiful O2 > levels, > > > if anything, the tank with the least O2 is the > one > > > with the least problems. > > > In general there is no discolouration anywhere > until > > > just before death when the gills sometimes lose > > > colour. > > > Until recently I've been feeding ONLY frozen > food > > > and > > > the occasional lot of wild caught mosquito > larvae > > > from a planter outside my house or from my water > > > tank > > > (left open for this reason. > > > Stock is generally captive bred. > > > Since speaking to Pete I've tried a bactericide, > but > > > won't know how effective this has been until the > > > next > > > fish tips up its toes. > > > > > > C:-)lin > > > > > > They said "Smile, things could be worse." 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