As I have seen in my books, the right name for both is Mikrogeophagus with k not c ramirezi and altispinosa. (Mikrogeophagus ramirezi (Myers & Harry, 1948) (Mikrogeophagus Meulengracht-Madsen, 1968, a senior synonym of Papiliochromis Kullander, 1977 (Teleostei: Cichlidae)) Ernst ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Jewell" <chris@jewell68.freeserve.co.uk> To: <apisto@listbox.com> Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2002 9:23 PM Subject: Re: Dwarf Cichlid question > I work on the latin names Microgeophagus Ramirezi and Papiliochromis > altispinosa which was up to date from what I've recently been told. If > anyone has a definative version of what we should call the Bolivian ram I > think it would clear up a lot of confusion, both past and present. > > Chris > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Zack Wilson <aquamaniac@earthlink.net> > To: <apisto@listbox.com> > Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2002 7:53 PM > Subject: Re: Dwarf Cichlid question > > > > Assuming you start out with healthy stock ( a lot of lfs stock is not), > I've > > found rams to be as hardy as the next fish. They are not as fragile as so > > many people seem so eager to say they are. Still, I wouldn't advocate > > putting them in hard, alkaline water. They come from and prefer soft, acid > > water, and you'll get the best out of them in those conditions. Just a > small > > point, but since you both referred to it, last I checked Microgeophagus > > referred to both ramirezi and altispinosa as their genus name. > > > > Kribs (pulcher) are certainly adaptable and easy to keep breed. They'll > live > > and breed in all sorts of conditions, though they do seem to prefer it > > softer. The other Pelvicachromis species seem a little more insistant on > > having their water soft/acid. > > > > As far as Apistos are concerned, cacatuoides would be about the best bet > no > > matter what the hardness ends up being, which would be very helpful to > know. > > I was keeping and breeding my cacatuoides in well water long before I got > an > > RO unit or even understood the importance of hardness. My tap comes out at > > pH 8.4, dKH/GH 15. They had no problems in this water. When I got my RO > > unit, I decided to experiment with the conditions and I continued to get > > good results when I dropped the pH to 6.5 and hardness down to 2-3degrees. > > Assuming the water is clean (shouldn't it always be for any fish?) and you > > can provide a diet with a little more emphasis on frozen/live, cacatuoides > > is a pretty hardy, easy to keep dwarf. > > > > Zack > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. > > For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, > > email apisto-request@listbox.com. > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. > For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, > email apisto-request@listbox.com. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com.