Re: ram fry, sigh

["Mike Jacobs" <mjacobs2@tampabay.rr.com>]

OK, let's try this again I took a DEEP breath and exhaled............ now
with a clearer mind and a calmer demeanor...........Hi all!

For starts guys, lets all agree that there is almost NEVER one way to treat
any certain fish......all I can give is what's worked for me....may not be
the best for all but it is what I do.

NO, ram questions are nifty because the fish is so nifty.  There is
something, I think, to small fish (for a species) give smaller eggs than
normal and larger fish (for the species) will give "regular" eggs for the
species.  Some rams do seem to have rather small eggs but you can usually
tell if it's gonna happen if the female is a small
one..........................no problem!  The following also works for other
really small fry than rams.  Like Ed said, if you have an infusoria
(paramecium) culture handy fine but it's only needed in rams for 1-2 days if
at all......then microworms.....then bbshrimp.  In the absence of an
infusoria culture I take a clump of java moss about 1/2 the size of your
hand and scrunch together on itself and then put it in the water with the
young that are 12 or so hours from swimming........food from the 'Gods' for
the first 24 hours and sometimes even longer...they can eat little critters
off the java moss (or similar plant) for quite some time.

.....with all of that said, mostly my rams get 1 day maybe 2 of microworms
and then they are off and running with bbshrimp........when my micro worm
cultures are down I'll go with the java and bb right off the bat and there
seems to be no real problem......the smaller of the fry will eat critters
off the java and some you can see their bellies are orange from the get go.
Don't feed too much bbshrimp on the first 2-3-4 days....their bellies are
small!

...Exhale....................;-)

Mike


Mike Jacobs
Center for Advanced Technologies
High School Math Instructor
St. Pete, Fl.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Hatfield or Kim Rogers-Hatfield" <stevekim@indy.net>
To: <apisto@listbox.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2002 9:46 PM
Subject: Re: ram fry, sigh


> I always use paramecium for my rams and other small fry to start off they
> dont die and foul the water I use them even if im feeding bbs so if there
> are any small fish (usually females)  in the spawn they have a better
chance
> Steve
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ed Pon" <edpon@hotmail.com>
> To: <apisto@listbox.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2002 9:11 PM
> Subject: Re: ram fry, sigh
>
>
> >
> >
> >
> > >Teresa wrote:
> >
> > >Hey, with all these posts with my subject line, only one has, like you
> > >know,
> > >advice.  Thanks Jerry, I will try the bbs today and maybe in a week, a
> > >little
> > >tank.  I have a huge spawn of blue rams on a leaf but no container to
try
> > >and
> > >hatch them in, these guys always eat their eggs, I never even see
> wigglers.
> > >Thanks again, Teresa
> > >
> > >
> >
> > Teresa--I can't recall which bbs are smallest, but bbs from different
> > locations (i.e. Argentina vs. San Francisco Bay vs. Salt Lake City)  may
> > vary in the size.  If you search the forums, you may be able to find a
> brine
> > shrimp which is smaller at hatch time.  I've heard other people at my
fish
> > club mention that their baby rams can't take baby brine shrimp when
> newborn.
> >   In addition, bbs grow rapidly after hatching, so you might not wait
too
> > long after hatching to use them.
> >
> >
> > Ed Pon
> > Milpitas, California 95035
> >
> >
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