OK. If you've been holding your breath, you can stop. "NY" are the first two letters of NYSANTE which is the ID on the LFS tank for some wild Apistos...10 of which I brought home last week. Is it a location? A made-up name? Does it really matter anymore? Upon investigation in Linke and Staeck's "American Cichlids I, DWARF CICHLIDS" and the Aqualog poster of APISTOGRAMMA, I believe these fish to be.... (drum roll....) young caucatoides (wild form, no orange whatsover) or young bitaeniata. So...can anyone give me a fool-proof way of differentiating? (I think I know, but some of you are so much smarter about this than I'll ever be) Kevin Korotev-Milwaukee ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com.