Rik If these are CLUMPS of white dots it is probably Lymphocystis. That is pretty common in wild Rams. It will feel hard to the touch and be mostly on the EDGES of the fins. You can see a picture of a Ram like this on this website: http://www.iwaynet.net/~ken1/fish_pics/Ram_Fuzz.JPG (I can't remember who Ken is however). There are a number of things recommended for treatment of this (virus) but none of them works on a consistent basis. I lean toward the method in which you apply Acriflavin directly to the cells (the white spots) and wait for them to eventually fall off. This is similar to what some people recommend for Lymphocystis in Koi. The disease DOES eventually run it's course. It seems to be affected by some changes in water chemistry but I don't know just how. If, on the other hand, these are isolated white spots that do not respond to Ich medications they may be little worm cysts (similar to Black Spot disease in wild-caught fish). Those I would just hope will eventually go away by themselves. I've seen these on wild Rams lately but I haven't kept any myself so I don't know what happens to them in the long run. Steev ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com.