Rik, I think Steev gave some good info on Lymphocystis. Like nearly all viral diseases there is no medication that actually kills the virus. I have occasionally cut off the infected parts (where feasible). The use of Acriflavin & other disinfectants is there only to prevent the wound from becoming reinfected by some bacteria, etc. I think - if you have Lymphocystis - that you give the fish good water and good food & let the fish cure itself. I've seen encysted worms, usually diagenetic tremetodes, on lots of pond raised fish (usually livebearers), these are usually harmless, if only a few, but unsightly. In these cases I would use a dissecting needle, open the cyst, and remove the 'worm'. Then the fish are kept in clean water & checked for possible bacterial infection of the wound. One last thing. I don't recommend antibiotics unless you know what you're treating. In particular it's a waste of time & money to use penicillin in most cases. Penicillin is a gram-positive antibiotic and virtually no bacterial fish disease is caused by gram-positive bacteria. Mike Wise Rik Vandiver wrote: > My rams have white patches on their fins and in the > worst case on the > lips. I have raised the temperature and treated with > Maricide and > penicillin to no avail. please help me > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. > For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, > email apisto-request@listbox.com. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com.