Hello Del Yes i do heat the room. Where i live, here in the Adirondack mts in Northern NY, the Village of Tupper Lake owns its own municipal electric company so electric is dirt cheap. I have a total electric apartment, stove, fridge, hot water heater and electric heat. I use a second bedroom as my main fishroom.. I keep it around 78 all year round. Now as for the Ram wigglers... they are doing good still and now the other pair has gone and spawned again. This is cool... 2 breeding pairs in the same tank. I have to remove one of the pairs today or some hell is gonna break loose soon in there. Now the next thing i found today is really awesome for me too.. 2 weeks ago while in North Boston for an aquarium auction, i stopped by the Fish Place in North Tonowanda and came home with 2 pairs of MacMasteri Red necks.... gorgeous fish, rivaling any Viejita II, well i found a whole clutch of eggs in one of the corners.. nice bright red eggs and that female is very yellow.... cool!!!! And the tank was just a quarantine tank until i could set up a breeding tank for each pair... this makes me happy... And it also looks like my Aggie Red/golds have spawned along with my Hongsloi II..... Good day in the frozen tundra!! John ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com.