Hello, I am an extreme newby but am raising fry from my golds that spawn every three weeks or so. My eggs are always white and hatch into wigglers in two days. I don't know why my fish are successful. I keep them warm at 82 degrees and feed them lots of live food but my water is bad at ph8 and dh3 if you can believe it. I am amazed at this pair they are good parents and come from tank raised stock. Sorry if this wasn't much help. Teresa ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com.