Well, Jerry, I don't know why my aggies were less aggressive fish. All I know is that most of my early spawns of apistos were in 10 gallon tanks and I had little problem with aggression. Fontaine Weyman, who was about the only source of apistos back in the 70s bred his in 5 gallon tanks that were virtually bare! Even I have had apistos spawn in bare 5 gallon tanks, but I don't recommend tanks that small. It's possible that the way the tank is decorated has something to do with how aggressive the fish are. Out of sight, out of mind seems to work well, but like any other undertaking it's important to keep an eye on everything going on and step in when necessary. All that being said, most of my apistos are now in species tanks of 15 or 20L gallons. For some of my young or small species I still prefer my hampster tanks 18x14x10"high (45x35x25cm high), ~11 gallons/40 L. These work for single pairs because the females tend to claim a breeding territory of about 12" (30 cm) in diameter. If I put the breeding cave in the middle and stuff Java Moss around the borders, the male seems to have a way to move around the territory without passing through it. I know these are small. That's why I only use them for pairs and smaller species. Mike Wise Mike Wise JerrCarol@aol.com wrote: > That's interesting Mike, > I'll look into what you say. The tank size though is where we differ. I > just have had too many beaten up males even in 20 longs. I have a beautiful > Flametail right now that looks like it has a lyretail because the female just > took a nice chunk out of it. > If a tanks size of 20 long is more than what I need then what is it > . > I sometimes think I get these real mean females from Minnesota from a > renown fish guy who will remain nameless. > > I would appreciate your thoughts as the Aggie is one of my favorites. I > have a double red now and a yellow tail and the flame tail. I hope to get a > really nice Red/Gold someday soon. > Thanks much > JerryB > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This is the Apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. > For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, > email apisto-request@listbox.com. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com.