Re: Agassizii breeding assistance needed

[David Sanchez <barbax2@yahoo.com>]

Very inetresting Mike I actually breed many of my
apistos like you mentioned Fontaine did. I put a
female in a 5 gallon with a little java moss and a
micro thin layer of sand. I place a single PVC cave or
flower pot for use as a breeding tank. I fatten my
females up and when they are ready I simply throw in a
male for a night. The next morning I remove the male
and I just raise the fmelae with the young easier that
way. i would not reccomend it for all species and as
you said you have to keep an eye on things. I know
what species this works with and it works great for
me. I have found there is no pair bonding in Apistos
just two fish that are ready to get in on sort to
speak. If we put a well conditioned female with a good
male for many of the more robust species this works
fine. I know many of you will shutter to hear this but
thats how I do many species. It just makes my work
easier.

Dave sanchez


--- Mike & Diane Wise <apistowise@fgn.net> wrote:
> Well, Jerry, I don't know why my aggies were less
> aggressive fish. All I know is
> that most of my early spawns of apistos were in 10
> gallon tanks and I had little
> problem with aggression. Fontaine Weyman, who was
> about the only source of
> apistos back in the 70s bred his in 5 gallon tanks
> that were virtually bare! Even
> I have had apistos spawn in bare 5 gallon tanks,
> but I don't recommend tanks that
> small. It's possible that the way the tank is
> decorated has something to do with how aggressive
> the fish are. Out of sight, out of mind seems to
> work well, but like any other undertaking it's
> important to keep an eye on everything going on
> and step in when necessary. All that being said,
> most of my apistos are now in
> species tanks of 15 or 20L gallons. For some of my
> young or small species I still prefer my hampster
> tanks 18x14x10"high (45x35x25cm high), ~11
> gallons/40 L. These work for single pairs because
> the females tend to claim a breeding territory of
> about 12" (30 cm) in diameter. If I put the
> breeding cave in the middle and stuff Java Moss
> around the borders, the male seems to have a way
> to move around the territory without passing
> through it. I know these are small. That's why I
> only use them for pairs and smaller species.
> 
> Mike Wise
> 
> Mike Wise
> 
> JerrCarol@aol.com wrote:
> 
> > That's interesting Mike,
> >   I'll look into what you say. The tank size
> though is where we differ. I
> > just have had too many beaten up males even in 20
> longs. I have a beautiful
> > Flametail right now that looks like it has a
> lyretail because the female just
> > took a nice chunk out of it.
> >   If a tanks size of 20 long is more than what I
> need then what is it
> > .
> >   I sometimes think I get these real mean females
> from Minnesota from a
> > renown fish guy who will remain nameless.
> >
> >   I would appreciate your thoughts as the Aggie is
> one of my favorites. I
> > have a double red now and a yellow tail and the
> flame tail. I hope to get a
> > really nice Red/Gold someday soon.
> >                                                   
> Thanks much
> >                                                   
>        JerryB
> >
> >
>
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