Thank you Brad Brian. That is exactly how I feel. There have been far more caustic discussions with less relevance to our main topic than this one. A little controversy is good for the brain. If our preconceptions are never questioned we really aren't learning anything. Regards, Zack ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com.