RE: experience

["Yvan Alleau" <yalleau@coas.oregonstate.edu>]

hi,
female borelli are very good and attentionate mother.
i've tried to put babies A. rot punkt and N. anomala with a bunch of fry A.
trifasciata but it didn't work. the "foreign" babies were not recognizing
the female trifasciata as a mom but as a threat and were acting weired
compared to her real babies. they were not being obediant and answering her
orders. she chased each of them down after an hour of observing her
deliquant kinds and killed them, but didn't touch a single "hair" of her own
babies!
my  2 centimes !

Yvan Alleau
712 NW Kings Blvd
Corvallis, OR 97330
College of Oceanic and Atmospheric Sciences
Oregon State University
office (Burt 222): 737-3649, to be used wisely!
home: 738-0606

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-----Original Message-----
From: owner-apisto@admin.listbox.com
[mailto:owner-apisto@admin.listbox.com]On Behalf Of Mike & Diane Wise
Sent: Friday, March 15, 2002 12:07 PM
To: apisto@listbox.com
Subject: Re: experience


Sal,

How very interesting. Considering that many apisto females will herd live
food,
I don't see why they won't herd some other fish's fry. Back in the
prehistory of
apisto breeding it wasn't uncommon to hear about someone using A. borellii
females as surrogate mothers for the fry of other cichlids - even non apisto
fry.

Mike Wise

salS wrote:

> I would like to share an experience and would like to know if anyone else
> experienced the same.
> In my 20gl high (full of java moss and some Anubias plants) I have 4
> Dicrossus Maculata, that after I removed all (?) the A. Mamore, they began
> to spawn. The first spawn the eggs disappeared, so when she spawned again
I
> decided that if they hatched I would steal the wigglers.  They hatched,
and
> I removed all the fry (so I thought!), 5 days later I saw the female,
still
> in her breeding form, was herding about 6 fry and at the same time a
bright
> yellow Mamore female came out of the java moss with about the same amount
of
> fry.  Now, I know that they are not Mamore fry because there hasn't been a
> male in there for about a month, so I would assume that she took on the
role
> of a surrogate mother.  I had this happen before, but only when a females
> already had fry. They're both doing fine.
> sal
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <mjacobs2@tampabay.rr.com>
> To: <apisto@listbox.com>
> Sent: Friday, March 15, 2002 4:31 AM
> Subject: Re: keep it to apistos
>
> > Frank......long time no talk......
> >
> > Did you "cut" my response to the evolution???  It's Ok if you
did.....just
> > haven't seen it!...I thought it might help, but whatever!!  I thought it
> > was "tame" enough!
> >
> > Mike
> >
> >
> > > Keep on topic please.
> > > -- list owner
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> > >
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