Re: A. pulchra cf wilmeri was: Apistogramma/Apistogrammoides

[Mike & Diane Wise <apistowise@fgn.net>]

Dominic,

Your short description does make it sound like you
have A. cf. pulchra (Abacaxis)
a.k.a. Wilhelmi. I'll send you a photo for you to
compare with yours. I must
congratulate you on your success. This fish isn't
one of the easiest to breed.

Mike Wise

dominic wrote:

> Hi Mike
>
> You are quite right - I do need a copy. My 'wilmeri' probably are Wilhelmi - but
> the spelling problem is mine. The person i got them from originally told me they
> were pulchra, but they didn't match any pulchra images I found. This fish is an
> agassizi type. To my mind, the stand-out feature is the purple lower mouth of the
> males. My friend later muttered something about wilmeri, and that's what I've been
> calling them. Unfortunately, I lost the parents, but I have about 40 sub adult fry
> that I'm growing out.
>
> Mike & Diane Wise wrote:
>
> > Dominic,
> >
> > It seems that you need to pick up a copy of Römer's Cichlid Atlas. The T-bar is
> > fairly adaptable to water conditions, not needing super soft water.
> >
> > My question is with your pulchra. There are many forms in the pulchra-complex.
> > I've never heard of "cf. wilmeri". Could yours be the same as 'A. sp.
> > Wilhelmi'? Too often, it seems, suppliers are poor spellers. This is a rather
> > pretty fish with a very poor name. It's now being discussed as 'A. cf. pulchra
> > (Abacaxis)' because it comes from the Rio Abacaxis.
> >
> > Mike Wise
> >
> > dominic wrote:
> >
> > > Actually, I just picked up a pair of pucallpaensis. Can anyone
> > > tell me anything about them? (They are currently sharing a 40
> > > gal with a large school of A. pulchra cf wilmeri and i'm wondering
> > > if they need the water as soft as do the wilmeri).
> > >
> > > thanks
> > >
> > > Dominic Stones
> > > Richmond Hill Ontario
> > > Canada
> > >
> > > >--- Original Message ---
> > > >From: Mike & Diane Wise <apistowise@fgn.net>
> > > >To: apisto@listbox.com
> > > >Date: 4/3/02 12:22:10 PM
> > > >
> > >
> > > >Matthew,
> > > >
> > > >For now agassizii, borellii, macmasteri & all
> > > >other hobby apistos (except the T-bar Apisto,
> > > >Apistogrammoides pucallpaensis) are considered
> > > >members of the genus Apistogramma. This genus
> > > >might be split into several (3-5) genera in the
> > > >future, based on features no less significant than
> > > >those that separate Apistogrammoides from
> > > >Apistogramma. It all depends on how important
> > > >South American cichlid taxonomists consider the
> > > >need to do this.
> > > >
> > > >Apistogrammoides pucallpaensis is present in the
> > > >hobby right now. It just takes a little hunting.
> > > >
> > >
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