it looks to me that she has either eggs or fry. female nannies become terror when they have fry, especially toward any fish of their own species. they also are tuff and other. follow her and look where she goes: here they will be. As for the male, you could leave it in the tank if they are enough place for him to hide but control that he doesn't get damaged. if so, get him out or she will kill him. enjoy nannies! take care Yvan Alleau 712 NW Kings Blvd Corvallis, OR 97330 College of Oceanic and Atmospheric Sciences Oregon State University office (Burt 222): 737-3649, to be used wisely! home: 738-0606 PLEASE NOTE NEW E-MAIL ADDRESS: yalleau@coas.oregonstate.edu "When you're far from everything, you're getting closer to the essential" -----Original Message----- From: owner-apisto@admin.listbox.com [mailto:owner-apisto@admin.listbox.com]On Behalf Of Charlhatch@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 12:57 PM To: apisto@listbox.com Subject: N. anomola Hi guys, I have a pair of Nannacara anomala in a 21 gallon tank , heavilly planted with Bogwood Amazons, Vallis and Hairgrass. they share the tank with 9 cardinal tetras and untill recently seemed to get on fine. When first added about a week ago the male was showing signs that he was interested in the female, (swimming about her and displaying all his fins) but the female had no colour was very pale and showed little interest. 2 days ago though, the black markings on the female became very bold and she became a "vicious little madam" she has taken to chasing the male all over the tank and the few times he has tried to fight back their sparing has proven quite vicious,although upto now no fins have been damaged or chunks removed. Water readings are Ph: 7.6 Kh: 2ppm Gh: 5ppm NA: 10ppm I know the ph is high (thats what it comes out of the tap at round her) but I intend to add some more unleached wood to the tank in the hope that it will lower the PH, the fish are fed various small feeds a day, mainly of live food, with the occasional feeding of tetramin pellets. I have plenty of hideyholes in the bogwood but no out and out caves. Can anyone make any suggestions to stop the aggression? I thought african rift cichlids were mean, but sheesh this is hell! Had a funny moment yesterday though the male was getting all the abuse and in a moment of Manliness and to prove he wasnt a wimp, he picked a fight with a small cardinal, nothing serious, but you could tell by his expression it was a case of "I cant fight her, but I can fight you!" ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. apisto-digest@listbox.com also available. Web archives at http://lists.thekrib.com/apisto ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. apisto-digest@listbox.com also available. Web archives at http://lists.thekrib.com/apisto