Hi Mike - you might have the answer for this. I pulled 10 remaining eggs when the mother started to eat them and put them in a breeder trap in the same tank. None of the eggs developed (none fungused either). But a few grew into those sausage-shaped masses of pink tissue that I've always assumed to be mal-formed embryos. Do you know if this means the eggs were fertilised? I assumed that they must have been to get the eggs developing at all, but with fish I don't really know. Cheers ------------------------------------------------------------ from John McCrone ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. apisto-digest@listbox.com also available. Web archives at http://lists.thekrib.com/apisto