Thanks for your Response... I appreciate any and all thoughts. Even the one Mike made about if my double reds were actually double red. He's a pretty funny guy when he works at it. I'd really like to get to the ACA this time in Georgia just to get to see what this guy is really like. Don't know though it a little distance for me. thanks again. JerryB ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the Apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. apisto-digest@listbox.com also available. Web archives at http://lists.thekrib.com/apisto