Hello Greg I'll be there on saturday and sunday!!! Look for the biggest person ( tallest anyways..lol ) that will be me...8-) Like Randy said.. the Northeast Council workshop is a great time, varied speakers on a wide range of topics covering all aspects of the hobby.... not just either killies, cichlids or livebearers..... I enjoy this workshop every year and the nice part is, its only like a 5 hour drive for me, so its an easy thing to attend each year. Plus there are some awesome pet shops in the area.... Puppy Center is one very much worth checking out each year. See you all there, for who ever is going!! John ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. apisto-digest@listbox.com also available. Web archives at http://lists.thekrib.com/apisto