My apistos dont seem to mind the flower pot lying on its side.... open to the world.... mostly because i am then only person walking in front of their tanks, and im at work quite often, so they get lots of privacy!! lol I did find some flower pots that were round once... with about a 7 inch top.... rounded down to the bottom. I cut a U hole in the rim and turned the pot upside down giving them a natural like cave with only one opening for entering and leaving... my apistos always choose this pot first for some reason... maybe for ease of defending the eggs/wigglers/fry I keep wanting to join some pottery club to spin my own flower pots... but there isnt one in the local area. Just my luck!!!! Have a hard time explaining what im making anyways lol.!! John ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. apisto-digest@listbox.com also available. Web archives at http://lists.thekrib.com/apisto