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Re: Cren. Puntulata success:-)



Yeah, I'm pretty sure they were all females, the dominant one grew and grew! I noticed the change of colouration (ie sex) starting a couple of months ago.

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From: "David Soares" <apistodave@bendcable.com>
Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 07:04:25 -0700
To: <apisto@listbox.com>
Subject: Re: Cren. Puntulata success:-)


> Congratulations Colin they are a difficult fish but the Germans have
> actually spawned them quite regular you might have been having a gender
> problem and it just flipped over for you!
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Colin Gorton" <mr_apisto@graffiti.net>
> To: <apisto@listbox.com>
> Sent: Monday, May 13, 2002 6:48 AM
> Subject: Cren. Puntulata success:-)
> 
> 
> > Hi folks,
> > On Saturday evening I got home to find a brood of Crenicara Puntulata
> swimming around&#61514;. I was especially pleased because I'd started to
> think that they'd never do anything, especially having read of other
> people's experiences as well as what there is about them in Mayland and
> Bork.
> > My experience has been completely different from that in M+B, the female
> developed a very strong continuous lateral line and continues to show this
> now. They bred in a 130 gallon (500litre) tank with various other fish (I'm
> using the 130 primarily as a grow-out tank) which is heavily planted at one
> end but with very little cover at the other except for dense floating plants
> (Eichornia Crassipes and Pistia Stratiotes.)  The tank has MH lighting, CO2
> injection, substrate heating with water at 0º for both KH and GH.
> > I was particularly interested to note that she chose the unplanted end to
> spawn, but having watched her behaviour it seems that she chose that end
> because she can see any potential threat coming from a long way off. I never
> actually saw the spawn though I did notice that both the male (who was
> previously female) had changed colour (yellow ventral fins and a blue sheen
> to the rest of the body and the lateral line became very indistinct. Having
> seen these changes I spent quite a long time looking for signs of eggs but
> couldn't see them and thought it must be another false alarm. She must have
> worked quite hard at protecting the eggs as there are a couple of Corys in
> the tank as well as Pencil fish, Ap. Steindachneri fry N. Taenia fry, M.
> Altispinosus as well as various Otos. I don't suppose that any are
> particularly notorious egg stealers (except the Corys) but the number of
> fish in there must have made her job quite tough. So far about 30 fry have
> survived.
> > The female is doing most of the guard duties but the male is also being
> more aggressive towards the other females. He does come into the mother's
> territory and isn't attacked unless he comes VERY close to the fry. In fact,
> in most instances I would have said that behaviour is very similar to that
> of Apistos (other than being an substrate spawner): the female moves her fry
> around quite regularly and protects the young, in addition she cleans an
> area of detritus before moving the young to a new site. Most of the time the
> young are quite active but when they're not, mum sort of "piles them up"
> into a mound&#61514;. The fry are quite a strange "bent comet" shape, with a
> very obvious head and tail and nothing else very visible, a very different
> shape from the parents, more like the shape you'd expect from a Biotoecus or
> Dicrossus.
> > I'm going to be away from home for a few days and debating whether to
> leave all the fry in their current tank or whether to transfer them, does
> anybody have any suggestions?
> >
> > As I've said before, I don't seem to have problems with the "difficult"
> ones, but can never get the "easy" ones to breed<:-).
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C:-)lin

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