The easiest way for me is always to wait until an hour after lights out and catch them asleep. Another trick is to use a turkey baster to squirt food into the mouth of the waiting net and let the fish swim in after it (only really works with the inexperienced of course). Cheers ------------------------------------------------------------ from John McCrone ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. apisto-digest@listbox.com also available. Web archives at http://lists.thekrib.com/apisto