hi Franck, just curious to know what your objective was when you went to collect fish in Peru, i mean, waht species were you looking at at that time? Was it a trip you've sponsored youreself or were you patr of some organisation, etc... take care Yvan Alleau 712 NW Kings Blvd Corvallis, OR 97330 College of Oceanic and Atmospheric Sciences Oregon State University office (Burt 222): 737-3649, to be used wisely! home: 738-0606 PLEASE NOTE NEW E-MAIL ADDRESS: yalleau@coas.oregonstate.edu "When you're far from everything, you're getting closer to the essential" -----Original Message----- From: owner-apisto@admin.listbox.com [mailto:owner-apisto@admin.listbox.com]On Behalf Of Frank O'Carroll Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2002 8:26 AM To: apisto@listbox.com Subject: my setup Some people asked about my setup - At the moment I only have five altispinosus, purchased at Christmas, in a 60 litre tank with some rummy-noses and red phantoms. Difficult to sex. One of them is getting beautiful extralong red tassels on its caudal fin. Some of them seem to have a very short nub of an ovipositor at the vent. I have 3 other 60 litre tanks but they are all empty now, and a bunch of small plastic tanks for various purposes. I just age (a few days), filter and preheat water for water changes, Tokyo water is so soft, and aged water does not seem to need declorination. I feed pellets and frozen bloodworms. I have bred agassizii and cacatuoides, also kept eunotus and bitaeniata, and apistogrammoides. As I recall eunotus and bitaeniata spawned but I had too many other fish. All of those fish I collected in Peru July/August of '95 and '96, and many of them were too small (for me) to id at the time of capture. The apistogrammoides, despite having 5 or six of them, may have all been females, they never did anything except grow slowly, and I couln't find more in Tokyo. The last wild apisto I collected in '96 died in January this 2002, a female bitaeniata - must have been 5 1/2 years old. Fully adult (male) apistos are truly a sight to behold. The male had died months earlier, bent-backed but still proud. So I am fresh out of apistos, and want to go back this year and get some more. I only got into apistos by chance, they found their way into my nets. I have also bred a couple of tetras, and white clouds. That's about it. Other readers are far more accomplished. I don't know about all the real apistos going to Japan, but Tokyo is blessed with some excellent stores which stock a lot of varieties. Frank ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. apisto-digest@listbox.com also available. Web archives at http://lists.thekrib.com/apisto ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. apisto-digest@listbox.com also available. Web archives at http://lists.thekrib.com/apisto