It seems the rules are very different "over the pond" than here in the U.K. We don't refer to a Wild Caught as F0 - it is simply W/C . The fry from a W/C pair are F1's then their offspring are F2's. Rarely do we then note F3, F4 etc. The fry bred from a W/C and F1 are referred to as F1/F2. I personally would be very displeased if I had paid good money for fish if they were labelled say F1 if they had not been bred from a Wild Caught pair. Helen > My understanding of F numbers is that it has nothing to do with wild caught or > domestic animals. There actually is no F0. Whether the plant or animal being > bred is wild or domestic the offspring of your 'starters' are F1, the offspring > of F1s are F2s, etc. Backbreaking offspring to parent doesn't usually apply in > this system. > > Mike Wise > > Yvan Alleau wrote: > > > hi all, > > Since a bunch of us are into genetics and related fields, i have a question: > > if the offsrpings of a wild pair (F0) are called F1 > > the offsrpings of the F1 called F2 > > How do you call a cross between 1 F0 and 1 F1 ? Just curious! > > have a good day ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. apisto-digest@listbox.com also available. Web archives at http://lists.thekrib.com/apisto