Didn't say anything bad, just said they weren't the flashiest. If you had to choose one 'pisto, would it be cf. eunotus? I ruled out the linkei based on several physical characteristics. Aside from the differences in darker markings between the two, the fish originally I had had a reddish spot at the base of the caudal, a more elongate yellow caudal fin, vertical lines in the ventral fin, a different head structure ( I don't know what to call it),no orange in the chest, yellow tipped ventrals, etc, etc. The female linkei also looks a good deal different. This stuff is too complicated. Don't try, it's for the taxonomists and people with too much time on their hands. Just watch them breed and be happy. Zack ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. apisto-digest@listbox.com also available. Web archives at http://lists.thekrib.com/apisto