Concerning the debate over the Moae or Not. Here are two links to a couple PICS I shot. I had to wake the fish up. The thing that doesn't show well is the bluish in the body. Not a Max G photo for sure but, I hope this helps settle it. And it will help me know what to call these fish. I think they are Great. When the go into spawning the female looks awesome. http://www.apistoworld.com/WhateverOne.jpg http://www.apistoworld.com/WhateverTwo.jpg JerryB www.ApistoWorld.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the Apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. apisto-digest@listbox.com also available. Web archives at http://lists.thekrib.com/apisto