Hello Sal Sure you gotta shoot my theorys right out of the water everytime , dont you????? And im sure you get westies and apistos to live fine together because of your singing.... heck all i have is an almost empty bottle of blue goop. Johnny ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. apisto-digest@listbox.com also available. Web archives at http://lists.thekrib.com/apisto