John the fish I got were from a breeder in Germany and you should see them they are colorful-the females look like males! But at the time I bought them Uwe and I discussed this problem--so you see it is not a problem of too far west but rather of too far east! And you say "just about every pair" so perhaps you have run into this problem too--you just didn't recognise it. Wild caught fish are more apt to spawn and believe me those will spawn for me, but that is not the problem I was enunciating. Soft Water Dwarf Cichlids Uwe Romer & David Soares 14697 S. Bluegrass Ln. Sisters OR, 97759 Phone/541-549-9350 apistodave@bendcable.com www.apistogrammaidiots.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Wubbolt" <BigJohnW@webtv.net> To: <apisto@listbox.com> Sent: Saturday, June 01, 2002 8:40 AM Subject: Re: tank with apistos cacatuoides > Wow.... I guess im glad im not a west coast person.... Ive never seen > cacatuoides reluctant to spawn.... Never.... just about every pair ive > ever put together have spawned for me... dont know if its luck, but that > is the case for me. I just had a pair of wild caught cf Cacatuoides > spawn for me in a quarantine tank..... nothing in there but a sponge > filter.... Oh well.... Alfredo.. buy your cacatuoides on the East > Coast... lol > > John > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. > For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, > email apisto-request@listbox.com. apisto-digest@listbox.com also available. > Web archives at http://lists.thekrib.com/apisto > Trading at http://blox.dropship.org/mailman/listinfo/apisto_trader > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. apisto-digest@listbox.com also available. Web archives at http://lists.thekrib.com/apisto Trading at http://blox.dropship.org/mailman/listinfo/apisto_trader