Re: nijsseni complex

[Mike & Diane Wise <apistowise@fgn.net>]

Michael,

I see relations between Maulbrüter, A. arua (& another arua-like sp. from the
upper Trombetas), A. sp. Inca, and A. atahualpa. Koslowski places Maulbrüter & A.
arua in the brevis-group. A. sp. Inca (highfin "Nijsseni") is in the
nijsseni-group, and A. atahualpa in an assemblage related to the nijsseni- &
cacatuoides-groups. In my opinion there seems to be a complex 3-way 'bridging'
between the brevis-, nijsseni- & cacatuoides-groups centered around these species.

Mike Wise

Michael NEGRINI wrote:

> Hello Mike,
>
> do you think Apistogramma "Maulbruter" is also related to this group ? the
> female coloration is very close
>
> Best regards, Michaël
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> -------Message original-------
>
> De : apisto@listbox.com
> Date : vendredi 21 juin 2002 17:55:11
> A : apisto@listbox.com
> Sujet : Re: nijsseni complex
>
> Lilian,
>
> According to Koslowski's new book, the nijsseni-group includes:
> A. nijsseni
> A. panduro
> A. sp. Lyretail ("Panduro")
> See: http://www.geocities.com/rainforest/jungle/4327/mikeroom.html for a
> video
> of this fish
> A. sp. Inka/Inca (the new high fin Nijsseni") See:
> http://www5b.biglobe.ne.jp/~amazon-b/apist1/apist1.htm (top photos of male &
> female)
>
> A. sp. Mortenthaler is a trade name for A. sp. Lyretail.
> A. sp. Inka/Inca is the most recent addition. I am told that there is an
> excellent article on this species in the July, 2002 issue of DATZ.
>
> Several other fish are related to the nijsseni-group:
> A. norberti
> A. payaminonis
> A. cf. payaminonis
> A. atahualpa
> A. cf. atahualpa
>
> I know of now photos on the web of A. cf. payaminonis or A. cf. atahualpa,
> although both are pictured in Koslowski's new book (Die Buntbarsche Amerikas
>
> Band 2).
>
> Mike Wise
>
> lilian moissonnier wrote:
>
> > i would have liked to know what new species
> > could be included in the nijsseni complex (the one i,
> > and lots more, are really interested in).
> >
> > and if you had links to photos of these.
> > for the photos i'm thinking of the lyretail panduro,
> > and the highyfin nijsseni.
> >
> > thanks in adavance.
> >
> > nb. oh yeah, does someone has any info on the apisto
> > sp "martenteller"? this is the phonetic version of its
> > name as i have only found a video of this species
> >
> > lilian
> >
> > france
> >
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