Hello Mike, do you think Apistogramma "Maulbruter" is also related to this group ? the female coloration is very close Best regards, Michaël ___________ Michaël NEGRINI cichlidae@ifrance.com http://cichlidae.netliberte.org http://theraphosidae.netliberte.org ICQ #35720218 -------Message original------- De : apisto@listbox.com Date : vendredi 21 juin 2002 17:55:11 A : apisto@listbox.com Sujet : Re: nijsseni complex Lilian, According to Koslowski's new book, the nijsseni-group includes: A. nijsseni A. panduro A. sp. Lyretail ("Panduro") See: http://www.geocities.com/rainforest/jungle/4327/mikeroom.html for a video of this fish A. sp. Inka/Inca (the new high fin Nijsseni") See: http://www5b.biglobe.ne.jp/~amazon-b/apist1/apist1.htm (top photos of male & female) A. sp. Mortenthaler is a trade name for A. sp. Lyretail. A. sp. Inka/Inca is the most recent addition. I am told that there is an excellent article on this species in the July, 2002 issue of DATZ. Several other fish are related to the nijsseni-group: A. norberti A. payaminonis A. cf. payaminonis A. atahualpa A. cf. atahualpa I know of now photos on the web of A. cf. payaminonis or A. cf. atahualpa, although both are pictured in Koslowski's new book (Die Buntbarsche Amerikas Band 2). Mike Wise lilian moissonnier wrote: > i would have liked to know what new species > could be included in the nijsseni complex (the one i, > and lots more, are really interested in). > > and if you had links to photos of these. > for the photos i'm thinking of the lyretail panduro, > and the highyfin nijsseni. > > thanks in adavance. > > nb. oh yeah, does someone has any info on the apisto > sp "martenteller"? this is the phonetic version of its > name as i have only found a video of this species > > lilian > > france > > ___________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? -- Une adresse @yahoo.fr gratuite et en français ! > Yahoo! Mail : http://fr.mail.yahoo.com > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. > For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, > email apisto-request@listbox.com. apisto-digest@listbox.com also available > Web archives at http://lists.thekrib.com/apisto > Trading at http://blox.dropship.org/mailman/listinfo/apisto_trader ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. apisto-digest@listbox.com also available. Web archives at http://lists.thekrib.com/apisto Trading at http://blox.dropship.org/mailman/listinfo/apisto_trader ______________________________________________________________________________ ifrance.com, l'email gratuit le plus complet de l'Internet ! vos emails depuis un navigateur, en POP3, sur Minitel, sur le WAP... http://www.ifrance.com/_reloc/email.emailif ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. apisto-digest@listbox.com also available. Web archives at http://lists.thekrib.com/apisto Trading at http://blox.dropship.org/mailman/listinfo/apisto_trader