Oh my God i want to say something here.... but i think i would be wise to just keep quiet. Hey there is a first time for everything... lol I've had problems with this in the past too.. Try putting the fish into a bigger tank with some small gouramis or slow moving dither fish... this might make the pair bond work a bit better.. .... causing the female to accept the male in her area and spawn.... keeping her nasty disposition towards the dithers rather then her mate. But then again..... you know how some females can be...... "Running for Cover" John ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. apisto-digest@listbox.com also available. Web archives at http://lists.thekrib.com/apisto Trading at http://blox.dropship.org/mailman/listinfo/apisto_trader