Rich, Males look much like females as juveniles. Females generally do not have metallic blue on their face while male do. Females rarely reach 2"/5cm in this species. So if I ever find a large female with blue on the face, I am very suspicious. It is almost always a large juvenile male. It looks like that is what happened to you. Mike Wise Richard Pooley wrote: > I feel like a real DA. I have had an a. trifasciata female, so I thought for > some time now. She looked like every pic I have seen of a female. I went out > and bought a male to see if the two would spawn. Now, all of a sudden they > both look like males. They both have longer dorsal rays, and are the same > size ( about 2 inches long). I know the one that I bought as a male is a > Guapore. The female? I am not sure where it came from other than the LFS. My > question is are there any really noticable distinctions that I may be > missing between male and female? I thought the female would be smaller at > least. She had dark black on her pectoral fins. Also, she had dark dorsal > rays. Now they are fading to the same color grayish that the male has. I am > going nuts here. First I couldn't find a male after mine died. Now I have > two and can't find a female locally. A little help would really be > appreciated. Thanks gang, Rich > > _________________________________________________________________ > Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. > For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, > email apisto-request@listbox.com. apisto-digest@listbox.com also available. > Web archives at http://lists.thekrib.com/apisto > Trading at http://blox.dropship.org/mailman/listinfo/apisto_trader ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. apisto-digest@listbox.com also available. Web archives at http://lists.thekrib.com/apisto Trading at http://blox.dropship.org/mailman/listinfo/apisto_trader