Ummmm Eric I think the best thing to use in your apisto tanks is WATER.... fish dont live too long without it, moss is nice but water is better..... lol... On the related topic..... i prefer the jiffy pellets.. much easier to work with .... but then again, i only use them for spawning my annual killies. My water is just perfect for apistos..... Move back to the Northeast Eric.....that liquid rock in Texas isnt good for anything....lol John ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. apisto-digest@listbox.com also available. Web archives at http://lists.thekrib.com/apisto Trading at http://blox.dropship.org/mailman/listinfo/apisto_trader