Re: A. sp. "Smaragd" yes?

["David Soares" <apistodave@bendcable.com>]

It is so hard (as in impossible) to identify a fish from a verbal
description Better a pic Sarah
Soft Water Dwarf Cichlids
David Soares & Uwe Romer
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Samala" <samalaud@yahoo.com>
To: <apisto@listbox.com>
Sent: Saturday, August 17, 2002 3:55 PM
Subject: A. sp. "Smaragd" yes?


> Ran into a tank of Apistos at a local shop today.
> Nearly fell over dead.  I've never seen Apistos in the
> shops of my area before this.  The shop owner let me
> take a male of the bunch to try to ID.
>
> I believe I have A. sp. "Smaragd", also ref'd as A.
> sp. "Emerald" and is a color form of A. geisleri.  But
> I'm not sure as the A. geisleri pictures I've seen
> don't have all the dark markings that this fish shows
> and the "Smaragd" pics I've seen can't confirm or deny
> that this fish is also a Smaragd.   There is also the
> question of the fish being the infamous A. sp. "Steel
> Blue" that was sold as Borelli over the US in the past
> two years.  (Did we ever confirm that they were
> hybrids?)
>
> The fish I have has the hallmarks of the regani
> complex: small size (1 1/4"), somewhat broken dark
> lateral band with caudal peduncle spot (which is
> small).  Suborbital band with a little white/light
> blue coloration on the head (not spangling).  Some
> yellow markings on the cheeks and a dark red or
> perhaps purple on the lowest edge of the jaw.  Fins
> are clear with some opaque markings.  Dorsal blotches
> also occur in broken patches on the body.   I'm
> betting on Smaragd here as the body has a vibrant
> bright green metallic cast to it with good light.
> Shop says they are WC, and they came in with some wild
> aggies marked Alenquer.  Course, that could be
> incorrect.
>
> Erik Olson's pic of A. sp. Smaragd on his site is a
> near perfect match.  The sole difference is that the
> black edging of the ventrals in MY fish is
> incomplete.. stretching roughly halfway.  (Could be an
> individual variation.)
> http://www.thekrib.com/Apisto/A-sp-smaragd.jpg
>
> My questions:
> a) is it safe to call this fish Smaragd or at least A.
> geisleri?  Or, is there a definitive way to confirm
> these are NOT A. sp. SteelBlue?  I'm concerned about
> having hybrids.
>
> b) will Smaragd interbreed with A. cf. eunotus
> "Orangeschwanz"?  (He can either live in a 10gal. with
> some cardinal tetras or a 30gal. with a pair of those
> eunotus.)
>
> c) does anyone have female A. sp. Smaragd?  The shop
> said there were some "dull fish" in the bag with the
> "pretty green fish" but all died.  I'm not
> specifically looking to breed him but I've had
> "lonely" cichlids before and they develop all sorts of
> quirks.  (Like attempting to mate with small
> angelfish.)
>
> TIA
> >Sarah
>
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