hi all, i've just put in 5 new 10 gal and would need to get some heaters. I'm looking for the Accura brand which i use to use back in France under a different brand-name and which very reliable. In case you would know a good wat to get some, could you please drop me a line of list? Fishwize i just put some young A. sp pebas (identified as such by Mike Wise) to grow and would like to have more info about them. nothing is writing in Romer's book about them (or i haven't seen it) or A. papagayo to which they are close to. By the way, does anyone reproduce that species? I remember a beautiful picture of a male that was send on the list a little while ago. They breed in my crowdy growing tank among diplos, nanies, bitaeniata, trifasciata and rams and in tap water. I separate the trio and i am runing RO water for them. Are they black water fish? Any info would be welcome. thank you all. Yvan Alleau 712 NW Kings Blvd Corvallis, OR 97330 College of Oceanic and Atmospheric Sciences Oregon State University office (Burt 222): 737-3649, to be used wisely! home: 738-0606 PLEASE NOTE NEW E-MAIL ADDRESS: yalleau@coas.oregonstate.edu "When you're far from everything, you're getting closer to the essential" ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. apisto-digest@listbox.com also available. Web archives at http://lists.thekrib.com/apisto Trading at http://blox.dropship.org/mailman/listinfo/apisto_trader