Max You forgot to tell how those wild caught German blue rams got the Blue part of their name, from those cold chilly waters of the Rheine.... and the worst part of the story from what my father Hans told me was, that while swimming in those cold frigid waters, some wild Angelfish who were rather shy and unexperienced in the ways of breeding, came upon a pair of German Blue Rams spawning and just were so taken back by the spawning act that they blushed so hard in that cold Rheine water, that they permanently became known as the German Blue Blushing Angelfish. You know, these are the stories that just never seem to get released, other then told down through the generation of father to son.... father to son.....I feel obligated to tell them to someone seeing as I most likely will remain a single man, with no children to pass these family stories down to. Johann "the name my father Hans called me" ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. apisto-digest@listbox.com also available. Web archives at http://lists.thekrib.com/apisto Trading at http://blox.dropship.org/mailman/listinfo/apisto_trader