RE: Wild Caught Fish

[David Sanchez <barbax2@yahoo.com>]

Apistogramma	sp. Red stroke
Apistogramma	sp. Red stroke
Apistogramma	sp. Red stroke
Apistogramma	meinkenni Tefe
Apistogramma	sp. Papagalo
Apistogramma	cacatuoides Gold
Apistogramma	cacatuoides red gold
Apistogramma	cacatuoides red gold
Apistogramma	agassizi Red-black
Apistogramma	piauiensis
Apistogramma	piauiensis
Apistogramma	piauiensis Red-blue
Apistogramma	piauiensis Red-blue
Apistogramma	agassizi Santarem
Apistogramma	agassizi Alenquer red tail
Apistogramma	cruzi
Apistogramma	sp. Blue Head
Apistogramma	sp. Blue head
Apistogramma	sp. Rio Mamore
Apistogramma	sp. Rio Mamore super red
Apistogramma	sp. Breitbinden
Apistogramma	norberti
Apistogramma	panduro
Apistogramma	sp. Carapintada
Apistogramma	taeniata
Apistogramma	inconspicua
Apistogramma	staecki orange face F1
Apistogramma	cacatuoides Red
Apistogramma	sp. Rio Preto
Apistogramma	macmasteri Red neck
Apistogramma	cacat. gold super red MALE
Apistogramma	agassizi Gold red
Apistogramma	agassizi Double red
Apistogramma	agassizi Double red
Apistogramma	agassizi Double red
Apistogramma	agassizi double rot FEMALE
Apistogramma	cacatuoides Double red
Apistogramma	cacatuoides Double red
Apistogramma	agassizi Red
Apistogramma	agassizi
Apistogramma	agassizi Rio Tefe blue
Apistogramma	agass. Rio Arapiuns-red tail
Apistogramma	agassizi Orange dorsal
Apistogramma	agassizi Tucurui gold
Apistogramma	agassizi red dorsal
Apistogramma	borelli
Apistogramma	borelli
Apistogramma	borelli pantanai
Apistogramma	bitaeniata
Apistogramma	cacatuoides
Apistogramma	paebas
Apistogramma	macmasteri
Apistogramma	macmasteri red mask
Apistogramma	sp. Redspot
Apistogramma	nijsseni
Apistogramma	diplotenia
Apistogramma	hongsloi
Apistogramma	hongsloi
Apistogramma	hongsloi Red
Apistogramma	trifasciata
Apistogramma	commbrae
Apistogramma	commbrae
Apistogramma	sp. Opal
Apistogramma	sp. Opal
Apistogrammoides	pucallpaensis
Apistogrammoides	pucallpaensis
Apistogramma	pulchra Red tail
Apistogramma	linkei
Apistogramma	sp. Algodon II.
Apistogramma	sp. Algodon II.
Apistogramma	luelingi
Apistogramma	luelingi
Apistogramma	steindachneri
Apistogramma	sp. Pertensis yellow
Apistogramma	pertensis Santarem F1
Apistogramma	viejita
Apistogramma	elizabethae
Apistogramma	cacatuoides Orange
Apistogramma	cacatuoides Orange
Apistogramma	cacatuoides Orange
Apistogramma	trifasciata Rio Guapore
Apistogramma	sp. Red point
Apistogramma	sp. Red point
Apistogramma	viejita super II
Apistogramma	viejita "Rio Meta"
Apistogramma	eunotus
Apistogramma	eunotus
Apistogramma	eunotus
Apistogramma	eunotus II.
Apistogramma	eunotus II
Apistogramma	sp. Tucurui
Apistogramma	sp. Tucurui
Apistogramma	caetei
Apistogramma	caetei "blue head"
Apistogramma	viejita II.
Apistogramma	hoignei
Apistogramma	agassizi Tefe red tail
Apistogramma	agass. Rio tefe red tail F1
Apistogramma	Rio Madeiro
Apistogramma	juruensis
Apistogramma	sp. Smaragd
Apistogramma	taeniata
Apistogramma	taeniata
Apistogramma	resticulosa Red mask
Apistogramma	resticulosa Red mask
Apistogramma	resticulosa red mask
Apistogramma	regani
Apistogramma	gibbiceps Rio Negro
Apistogramma	uaupesi Sao Gabriel
Apistogramma	uaupesi sao gabriel
Apistogramma	sp. Four-stripes
Apistogramma	sp. Four-stripes
Apistogramma	sp. Four stripes
Apistogramma	rupununi
Apistogramma	sp. Xingu red lobes


The above is a list of all tank bred fish from a
European exporter. Nope Folks I am not selling nor do
I have any desire to. I am just showing the list to
illustarte the fact that tank raised fish are readily
available and in my opinion a much better choice
especialy for the novice. Tank raised fish are disease
resistant, because they are line bred that way. They
are also more colorful because they are line bred. It
i slike comparing wild discus to the fancy varities
available today. Of course this is all just opinion
and we all have them. My point is that id rather deal
with tank bred fish then wild. For the following
reasons

1)hardy tank raised and used to aquaruim conditions
2)more colorfull by far! Ill tajke a A.agassizi
gold/red any day or a aggie double red.

3)Wild fish will always have the potential to be
holding parasites no matter how much quaraintine they
get.


Yes wild fish are preferred by some and thats cool im
not sayingthats wrong butrather simply advocating the
better choice in tank bred fish for most as they will
most likely have success and not have fish that are
not shy but aquaruim bred and much more sociable. I
think of my German Rams, my aggies etc they all eat
from the top of tank and are not shy at all.

Lastly I have talked to may newbie Apisto keepers that
have spent big money on wild fish, such as at the
convention for example and after a few months they
have losy more then half of their fish.

Personaly I dont like wild fish anymore. For me I am
breeding Discus and Angelfish and I just dont want any
problems in my fishroom. Well my 2 cents.

Dave Sanchez

 

--- John Wubbolt <BigJohnW@webtv.net> wrote:
> 
> I guess outside of the Agassizi, Juruensis, Hoignei,
> Trifasciata, sp
> Maulbruter, sp Cara Pintada, Cf Cacatuoides,
> Nijsenni, Gephyra and
> Bitaeniata....... I refuse to keep Wild Caught stock
> too...... ahhhh hum
> bug....
> 
> If properly taken care of Wild Caught fish are no
> more problem to keep
> the any aquarium strain fish.   Actually I PREFER to
> keep wild caught
> fish for reasons of Looks, Vigor and less chance of
> line bred problems
> as compared to aquarium strains of fish....   After
> having a
> conversation several years ago with a fellow club
> member and apisto list
> member,  I have learned to appreciate the qualities
> of wild caught fish.  
> 
> Now the question arises, Do wild caught fish need
> some special care.....
> yes!   You have to watch your fish for diseases and
> parasites that come
> in from the wild.   But this requires no more care
> then watching any
> tank you have for ick, fin rot, or whatever...    
> 
> Ok off my soap box and back to enjoying my fish.....
> 
> Anyone working with Cruzi or Caetei??  Please get
> ahold of me.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> John
> 
> 
>
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